Feb. 8th, 2004 01:43 pm
A Tale of Two Nights
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vin_petrolTwo very different experiences at "Certificate 18" in York.
Friday night I agreed to go out with various people. Unfortunately, I wasn't really focussed enough about *where* we were going. So the old rockers in the group managed to get their preference, and we ended up in Certificate 18... Now, I go there for events like Enshrouded and The Body Electric, and generally have a reasonable time. However, the vibe on a this Friday night was very different. I can't put it any more eloquently that in![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
resyk's entry here:
http://resyk.blog-city.com/read/472804.htm
resyk said something about "burning life" in places like that. If you hold with the concept that "going out somewhere" should simplistically be a pleasurable experience, then you need to be aware of where you're going to end up. Music and atmosphere are very powerful drivers of mood. If you're up for it, 20 guitar solos in a row are great. I may well have enjoyed that immensely 12 years ago, but it's not really me, who I am, or what I listen to anymore.
Generally, I find I have one awful experience with something then learn to avoid it. I had a dreadful night at Bradford Rios some months ago, which I have since carefully avoided. This came up in conversation on Friday, with someone planning a birthday night out there. So I was focussed enough to carefully avoid that.
I can see that there may be some 'dutiful' aspects to places you go. I've been to enough "wedding evening does" to be painfully aware of this experience. This was one of the reasons Trash and I didn't really have a traditional "wedding evening do" in any way. We had a daytime reception, then cleared off on Honeymoon. Our "wedding evening do" was three weeks later at The Adelphi club in Hull, where we put two bands on that had friends of ours in ("The Timebombz" and "The Bastards from Hell"), followed by the guy that runs the place playing a selection of metal and goth songs from our record collections. That worked well.
[BTW, I've probably mentioned this before, but how exactly did "Come On Eileen" become a tradition at "wedding evening does"? I don't hold with the theory that it's "Come *On* Eileen", but it still seems oddly out of place. But you always hear it...]
So Saturday night was an utterly different experience at Certificate 18 altogether. Into the back room for "The Body Electric", featuring "Zeitgeist Zero" and "Zombina and the Skeletones". It was worth the entrance price alone for Zeitgeist Zero's version of Iron Maiden's Powerslave (with electric violin). Absolutely fantastic.
There's something bands can do which I really like. If they name themselves, then show up and play songs, then that's OK. However, if the name 'extends' out into their songs, such that they become a kind of integrated stage show I *really* go for that. I really like it if the band refer to this imagery in their songs. It's something that Screaming Banshee Aircrew, The Scary Bitches and Goteki (who start their set with the song "Do Not Listen to Goteki" - fantastic) all do. It's even better if the imagery is trashy horror and SF B-movies (I seem to recall a song called something like "Jenny has a Dissolver Ray" - lovely).
I'm also a sucker for female vocals.
So "Zombina and the Skeletones" pushed all the right buttons with me and I thought they were great! I wouldn't really listen to their music in digital form, but they're great live.
Out of curiosity I asked the woman on the door how many people were in the back room: approximately 75, it would seem. So, a few more than the preceding Friday.
I also talked totukie, pelicanzed, Alex (Who I don't know if he's on LJ or not - must ask him next time I see him) and some bloke in stripy tights I think was called Fraggle(?)
I saw a young woman there I recognised from *somewhere*. So I wandered over to her and chatted to her. She vaguely recognised me too. So where had we met? We eventually worked it out: she sells newspapers in the WH Smiths in the station, so I've been buying my morning paper off her for the last few weeks.
It wasn't long after the bands that the lights came up (this is York, remember).ant_girl, mister_ed and kneeshooter were off to steer's. So I gave them a lift and gatecrashed the little drinks party at steer's. I asked if I could stay and he didn't throw me out, so that was cool. I was a cheap date anyway: I drank tea (although I did eat a lot of nachos - there were numerous bags lying around the place). Much drunken, wibbly conversation followed. I eventually left at about 02:30 when my brain was obviously getting tired. I seem to recall the last few minutes of conversation making almost no sense to me at all. I was tired...
I actually wrote the names of all the people there in my mobi, so I wouldn't forget. Hmmm. My 'big' PC doesn't have Bluetooth, but I should be able to quickly email the list to my 'big' PC... Yep, that's worked a treat. Now to use EditPlus to change the names into lj user tags... <much groaning, wailing and gnashing of teeth>. Bah! Like all Windows editors, it says it supports "regular expressions", but it doesn't really. Not *proper* regexes like in vi or Perl, but some cheapskate dozer land version of regexes that doesn't stand up to a regex wizard like me thrashing it. Erk - bit of a nerdy moment there.
So, present were:andyguest, clotilde, mister_ed, foxy76, kneeshooter, mistressmalaise, ant_girl, smorgasbord, sara_lou, miss_wonderly and steer. Hurrah!
Sleep was slightly interrupted by the strong winds blowing round the house. Fortunately, there's nothing left round my house to blow down: the fence blew over years ago! :-)
Wow, is it 13:43 already? I must try and get things together and do something vaguely constructive today.
Friday night I agreed to go out with various people. Unfortunately, I wasn't really focussed enough about *where* we were going. So the old rockers in the group managed to get their preference, and we ended up in Certificate 18... Now, I go there for events like Enshrouded and The Body Electric, and generally have a reasonable time. However, the vibe on a this Friday night was very different. I can't put it any more eloquently that in
resyk's entry here:http://resyk.blog-city.com/read/472804.htm
resyk said something about "burning life" in places like that. If you hold with the concept that "going out somewhere" should simplistically be a pleasurable experience, then you need to be aware of where you're going to end up. Music and atmosphere are very powerful drivers of mood. If you're up for it, 20 guitar solos in a row are great. I may well have enjoyed that immensely 12 years ago, but it's not really me, who I am, or what I listen to anymore.Generally, I find I have one awful experience with something then learn to avoid it. I had a dreadful night at Bradford Rios some months ago, which I have since carefully avoided. This came up in conversation on Friday, with someone planning a birthday night out there. So I was focussed enough to carefully avoid that.
I can see that there may be some 'dutiful' aspects to places you go. I've been to enough "wedding evening does" to be painfully aware of this experience. This was one of the reasons Trash and I didn't really have a traditional "wedding evening do" in any way. We had a daytime reception, then cleared off on Honeymoon. Our "wedding evening do" was three weeks later at The Adelphi club in Hull, where we put two bands on that had friends of ours in ("The Timebombz" and "The Bastards from Hell"), followed by the guy that runs the place playing a selection of metal and goth songs from our record collections. That worked well.
[BTW, I've probably mentioned this before, but how exactly did "Come On Eileen" become a tradition at "wedding evening does"? I don't hold with the theory that it's "Come *On* Eileen", but it still seems oddly out of place. But you always hear it...]
So Saturday night was an utterly different experience at Certificate 18 altogether. Into the back room for "The Body Electric", featuring "Zeitgeist Zero" and "Zombina and the Skeletones". It was worth the entrance price alone for Zeitgeist Zero's version of Iron Maiden's Powerslave (with electric violin). Absolutely fantastic.
There's something bands can do which I really like. If they name themselves, then show up and play songs, then that's OK. However, if the name 'extends' out into their songs, such that they become a kind of integrated stage show I *really* go for that. I really like it if the band refer to this imagery in their songs. It's something that Screaming Banshee Aircrew, The Scary Bitches and Goteki (who start their set with the song "Do Not Listen to Goteki" - fantastic) all do. It's even better if the imagery is trashy horror and SF B-movies (I seem to recall a song called something like "Jenny has a Dissolver Ray" - lovely).
I'm also a sucker for female vocals.
So "Zombina and the Skeletones" pushed all the right buttons with me and I thought they were great! I wouldn't really listen to their music in digital form, but they're great live.
Out of curiosity I asked the woman on the door how many people were in the back room: approximately 75, it would seem. So, a few more than the preceding Friday.
I also talked to
tukie, pelicanzed, Alex (Who I don't know if he's on LJ or not - must ask him next time I see him) and some bloke in stripy tights I think was called Fraggle(?)I saw a young woman there I recognised from *somewhere*. So I wandered over to her and chatted to her. She vaguely recognised me too. So where had we met? We eventually worked it out: she sells newspapers in the WH Smiths in the station, so I've been buying my morning paper off her for the last few weeks.
It wasn't long after the bands that the lights came up (this is York, remember).
ant_girl, mister_ed and kneeshooter were off to steer's. So I gave them a lift and gatecrashed the little drinks party at steer's. I asked if I could stay and he didn't throw me out, so that was cool. I was a cheap date anyway: I drank tea (although I did eat a lot of nachos - there were numerous bags lying around the place). Much drunken, wibbly conversation followed. I eventually left at about 02:30 when my brain was obviously getting tired. I seem to recall the last few minutes of conversation making almost no sense to me at all. I was tired...I actually wrote the names of all the people there in my mobi, so I wouldn't forget. Hmmm. My 'big' PC doesn't have Bluetooth, but I should be able to quickly email the list to my 'big' PC... Yep, that's worked a treat. Now to use EditPlus to change the names into lj user tags... <much groaning, wailing and gnashing of teeth>. Bah! Like all Windows editors, it says it supports "regular expressions", but it doesn't really. Not *proper* regexes like in vi or Perl, but some cheapskate dozer land version of regexes that doesn't stand up to a regex wizard like me thrashing it. Erk - bit of a nerdy moment there.
So, present were:
andyguest, clotilde, mister_ed, foxy76, kneeshooter, mistressmalaise, ant_girl, smorgasbord, sara_lou, miss_wonderly and steer. Hurrah!Sleep was slightly interrupted by the strong winds blowing round the house. Fortunately, there's nothing left round my house to blow down: the fence blew over years ago! :-)
Wow, is it 13:43 already? I must try and get things together and do something vaguely constructive today.
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Thanks! Information duly stored in long term memory...
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Utah Saints U-U-Utah Saints. It was quite cunning at the time because you KNEW who wrote that song you liked that you heard in the club. I wonder which was the first band to do it?
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I've had a quite terrifying thought:
Oh Well, wherever, wherever you are,
Iron Maiden's gonna get you, no matter how far.
See the blood flow watching it shed up above my head.
Iron Maiden wants you for dead.
1980.
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"Rocking rocking crappettes" band from the 50s?